Bachmann responds to Krinkie
Today the Bachmann campaign responded to a letter sent out yesterday by Phil Krinkie concerning some literature from the Bachmann campaign comparing their respective ratings from the Taxpayers League.
Wingman has the text of Krinkie's letter here:
The claims in question can be seen here, courtesty of a statement from David Strom of the Taxpayers League.
Bachmann said:
Those numbers can be found in this document from the TL.
In the reply today from the Bachmann campaign, their letter says:
Now, that is a true statement. However, if that is what the Bachmann campaign intended to say by their literature, they were not at all clear on that point. They certainly seemed to say that they were comparing the years 2000-2004, and not lifetime ratings.
If just those years are compared, David Strom’s statement on the TL website is accurate.
The Bachmann campaign should have been more specific about what precisely they were comparing.
(Though, as stated in the comments in a post at Residual Forces, it’s understandable Bachmann would not include 2005, as she had a decision to make on whether to swallow a poison pill. That she sided with a pro-life issue is not in any way an indication of how she votes on fiscal matters.)
Also, it is true that Krinkie said this in his letter:
“My rating from the Minnesota Taxpayers League for each year from 2000 to 2004 was 100%.”
However, as the Taxpayers League documents show, Krinkie’s rating in 2000 was not 100%, but was, rather, 92%.
I now sit back and await the chorus that Krinkie is a liar, a slimeball, has no integrity, etc…
(Now, I in no way think Krinkie is those things. Just wondering if those who are so venomous towards Bachmann will hold Krinkie to their same standard of truth.)
Wingman has the text of Krinkie's letter here:
Senator Bachmann:
I am writing today to call attention to false information in your campaign literature concerning our voting records. I trust you will immediately stop disseminating this false information in radio interviews, your speeches and in your campaign literature.
The false claim you have repeatedly made is that you have the highest rating from the Taxpayers League of Minnesota from 2000 through 2004. This claim is patently false.
My rating from the Minnesota Taxpayers League for each year from 2000 to 2004 was 100%. My average rating over that time period is, of course, 100%. This can be easily verified by visiting the Taxpayers League Website at www.taxpayersleague.org. Visitors to this site will also see my 100% rating in 2005 compared to your 77% rating, due to the fact that you broke your written pledge not to raise taxes.
Your most recent literature, handed out at the BPOU conventions last weekend, states that my average is 95%. This is false and you need to stop repeating it.
You first made this claim in a radio interview on February 18th on the Patriot Radio Show. You are now repeating it in your campaign speeches and in your literature.
Since this is a campaign between Republicans, I would respectfully ask that you destroy any literature with this false claim and cease and desist from repeating it in your speeches. Your quick action will prevent us from having to pursue legal action.
Running for Congress is much different than running for the State Legislature, and the Democrats in Washington D.C. are going to do everything they can to steal this seat back in November – including taking legal action against such distortions.
I would appreciate immediate compliance with my request. The Delegates to the 6th District Convention will benefit from a thorough and open discussion of our voting records – but only if we stick to the facts.
Sincerely,
Phil Krinkie
The claims in question can be seen here, courtesty of a statement from David Strom of the Taxpayers League.
Bachmann said:
Bachmann's Taxpayers League voting record, 2000-2004, of 96% outperformed Knoblach's 77% and Krinkie's 95%.
Those numbers can be found in this document from the TL.
In the reply today from the Bachmann campaign, their letter says:
See for yourself that my lifetime rating through 2004 was 96% and Rep. Krinkie’s lifetime score was 95%.
Now, that is a true statement. However, if that is what the Bachmann campaign intended to say by their literature, they were not at all clear on that point. They certainly seemed to say that they were comparing the years 2000-2004, and not lifetime ratings.
If just those years are compared, David Strom’s statement on the TL website is accurate.
The Bachmann campaign should have been more specific about what precisely they were comparing.
(Though, as stated in the comments in a post at Residual Forces, it’s understandable Bachmann would not include 2005, as she had a decision to make on whether to swallow a poison pill. That she sided with a pro-life issue is not in any way an indication of how she votes on fiscal matters.)
Also, it is true that Krinkie said this in his letter:
“My rating from the Minnesota Taxpayers League for each year from 2000 to 2004 was 100%.”
However, as the Taxpayers League documents show, Krinkie’s rating in 2000 was not 100%, but was, rather, 92%.
I now sit back and await the chorus that Krinkie is a liar, a slimeball, has no integrity, etc…
(Now, I in no way think Krinkie is those things. Just wondering if those who are so venomous towards Bachmann will hold Krinkie to their same standard of truth.)
8 Comments:
At Sat Apr 01, 10:44:00 AM, hammerswing75 said…
Out come the knives. I hope, for the sake of the general elections, that they start behaving themselves.
At Sat Apr 01, 06:35:00 PM, Tony said…
At least from me, those adjectives about Bachmann have to do with her camaign in whole...the subversion of the dedicated low-level volunteers for her win-at-all-costs career ambitions.
It includes her constant misrepresentation and mispresentation of facts in her press releases.
Those adjectives are not for ONE error.
When Krinkie makes the same volume of ethic-bending claims and actions then I will use the same adjectives.
At Sat Apr 01, 06:37:00 PM, lloydletta said…
Krinkie took responsibility for his vote - and he was scored negatively by MCCL for it - but he kept his pledge to the Taxpayers League.
Bachmann was busted "sanding off the truth" - and now she makes a bad excuse for leaving off her 2005 TL ratings.
The claim on her campaign lit piece was 2000-2004, not lifetime ratings.
The Taxpayer League did the right thing to defend their integrity from Bachmann's self serving lit pieces.
At Sat Apr 01, 06:51:00 PM, Jeff said…
Yeah, I agree the wording is 2000-2004. The first thought that would leap to mind is not lifetime ratings through 2004, if that's what they intended. I wonder who wrote it, and if they just messed up.
Yeah, they did open the door for charges of not playing straight, but hard to believe they'd try that when it is so easily checked.
At Sat Apr 01, 08:49:00 PM, lloydletta said…
If this was the only thing like this Bachmann has done, I'd chalk it up to poor attention to detail. But in their response, it seems they do have attention to detail when it suits them - finding Phil Krinkie's 2000 record of 92%.
This is a pattern for Michele Bachmann - from the graph she posted of some polling results - where the y axis went from 26 to 32 percent. The only purpose for that would be to distort the results - and make it look as if there was more of a difference between she and her opponents than there actually was.
Michele used the floor of the capitol to film a testimonial for a video company she did business with. The Senate passed a special rule dealing with this after this came out.
The honorable thing for Michele to do would be to pull her lit piece making the false claims about Krinkie.
At Sun Apr 02, 02:05:00 PM, lloydletta said…
# David Strom Says:
April 2nd, 2006 at 12:19 am
I want to make sure everyone understands my position:
I am not questioning Michele Bachmann's integrity. But I want to make it clear that the lit piece she is distributing doesn't correctly portray the facts.
In her clarification, Bachmann changes goalposts from her lit piece. In the lit piece, she refers to 2000-4, and specifically mentions the 2001, 2, 3, and 4 scorecards. Phil’s lifetime score goes back to 1997, and I can assure you that Krinkie could give an explanation for each vote he took.
By focusing on the scores, especially a 1 point differential, Bachmann opens herself up to this kind of criticism. By saying she outperformed Krinkie in those years, she begged people to check the facts.
If instead she had simply argued that she was as fiscally conservative as Krinkie, and her scores show that they are nearly indistinguishable, there would have been little grounds to criticize her. It would be nitpicking. But as the lit piece invited nitpicking by claiming that a 1 point difference in lifetime scores shows she outperformed Krinkie, she invited people to point out that the numbers don’t add up, and invited a discussion of the 2005 score issue.
That was a mistake, and Bachmann would do well to drop the lit piece in my opinion. It is not accurate, and any fair examination of the facts shows that. In no way shape or form did her lit piece suggest that Krinkie and Knoblach's votes from 1997, 1998, and 1999 were included in those scores. In fact, by referencing on 2001-4 by year, she made it clear that she was comparing the time they were all in the legislature together.
I wish this issue would just go away. I am quite fond of Michele personally.
At Sun Apr 02, 02:54:00 PM, Jeff said…
Thanks for the update. I think Strom has it right. By highlighting minute differences, and by not correctly stating what numbers they were using, the Bachmann campaign created an issue where there was none.
For me, I'm not all that concerned if the numbers are in the 90s. I take it to be an indication that someone is committed to fiscal sanity, and there really isn't a significant difference between 96 and 95.
At Sun Apr 02, 03:35:00 PM, lloydletta said…
Michele could easily end this by pulling her lit piece and formally apologising to both Krinkie and Strom. I'm not holding my breath.
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